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Rewrote lead and rearranged some stuff
[edit]For anyone interested. I just rewrote the lead of this article to improve clarity and added some additional content. It would be nice to have a more thorough description of mechanisms for carcinogenicity in that section, include a section on methods for testing the carcinogenicity of substances (epi studies, laboratory tests, animal studies) and perhaps fleshing out some of the examples of carcinogens. Kiydal (talk) 19:17, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
Toxicology task force
[edit]Just wanted to announce the creation of a new Toxicology Task Force under WikiProject Medicine. Feel free to come and sign up. Thanks -- Jrtayloriv (talk) 04:06, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Section on "Carcinogens in cigarettes"
[edit]Article says: "One of these is a compound marketed as a rat poison." Does not state what compound this is and what levels are found in cigarette smoke. The reference leads to a page defining carbon monoxide, which certainly is not the rat poison referred to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.216.241.103 (talk) 23:07, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed, italian food contains a substance marketed as a roach and ant pesticide (Rosemary), but this is not generally considered frightening. Also, how many is "many"? The wikipedia article linkes says that there are 19 know carcinogens. I guess "4000 chemicals" sounds scarier. 70.171.204.39 (talk) 22:37, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
--175.39.11.38 (talk) 08:15, 13 July 2013 (UTC)== Removed reference to Marie Curie ==
According to the article on Marie Curie, she did not die of cancer from radiation but rather from aplastic anemia (that page includes a reference). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.122.6.250 (talk) 18:42, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Carcinogen pictogram
[edit]The hazard pictogram is described as the symbol for carcinogenicity, but GHS does not have a specific symbol for this. That pictogram indicates one (or more) of several different hazards, one of which is carcinogenicity. A little misleading - most substances with that pictogram will actually have a 'lesser' hazard. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GHS_hazard_pictograms (where references are quoted). MrStabley (talk) 00:51, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
New placard
[edit]![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/81/Carcinogen_placard.png/220px-Carcinogen_placard.png)
A new placard has been added to the article twice now and I have removed it both times. I have searched for this placard but have not been able to find any place it is in use. Hopefully Xjszabo2022 will explain where this placard comes from and where it is being used. -- GB fan 11:48, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
it's my own work (the carcinogen placard and asphyxiant gas placard)and I really want the government to find it and approve so it can be an official placard — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xjszabo2022 (talk • contribs) 17:56, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
- Then they do not belong in the articles. Wikipedia is not the place to promote your ideas. It is the place to report what others have on the subject. We only put signs that are in use. -- GB fan 18:06, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
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Weaselish words in "Prepared Foods" section
[edit]This section is filled with phrases such as "may produce" and "can lead". It even says that charred meat "resembles" coking and burnt tobacco. Other than remove it altogether, I edited it a bit, my first attempt at "Vandalizing" an article; it now reads "may or may not", "can or can not", and in place of resembles, "looks like". A number of meats were filled with chemicals, now only "some brands of "meats are. Not very adult like, (although my edits are as logical as the original) it requires some attention from someone with out an agenda to further, although I vote for deletion; various prepared foods differ considerably, this section suggested otherwise. It also uses the BBC as a reference. One last thing I did, just after it had charred meat "resembles"coking and burnt tobacco, it claimed that it produced "similar" carcinogens. I removed that altogether, no reference, no mention of the similarities, just someone's opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kurtdriver (talk • contribs) 03:13, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Sources?
[edit]"Substances or foods irradiated with electrons or electromagnetic radiation (such as microwave, X-ray or gamma) are not carcinogenic."
A "citation needed" tag has been sitting in this sentence for seven years now.
This claim may be perfectly true, but as this kind of thing tends to be subject to controversies and conspiracy theories, there really should be some reliable sources supporting this sentence. The more so in a time and age of "alternative facts". --93.212.230.88 (talk) 06:08, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
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Picture
[edit]I was thinking that there should be a picture for this article. At the very least a symbol that is commonly used to show that something is carcinogenic. Or maybe even a prop 65 label? I'm currently looking, but if anyone else finds anything, please let me know. Thanks, Ghinga7 (talk) 17:16, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Update: I have found a picture of Asbestos, which is mentioned as a carcinogen. I found it in it's wikipedia article. If somebody could tell me if this is appropriate for use in this article, that would be great. Ghinga7 (talk) 18:19, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/White_asbestos_%28Chrysotile%29.jpg/220px-White_asbestos_%28Chrysotile%29.jpg)
I was thinking of adding a tobacco product picture in this article. MightyArms (talk) 17:44, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
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I believe that within the article section entitled "Mechanisms of Carcinogenicity" there could be great benefit to add more specific detail regarding the chemical and molecular interactions through which carcinogens relate to DNA. This deeper understanding could be of great use to a various number of readers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JEvans245 (talk • contribs) 14:35, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
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